Episode 1

Published on:

12th Feb 2021


Delma: This is Delma Jackson.

Shadiin: And I’m Shadiin Garcia and welcome to our new podcast Dive-In-Justice.


This podcast is for you… 

If you love the idea of building intentional community,

If you love history and pop-culture,

If you want to dream into a society where intersectionality is baked in,

Then dive in with us.

Shadiin: Know this. People of every background are welcome.

 We move through the world as Black and Brown people, and that’s the perspective we’re invoking.

This is especially for Black and Brown people who understand and have lived oppression, but aren’t defined by that lived oppression.

If you’re White, you’re welcome to listen - but not extract, as we’re not centering whiteness in this podcast. 

Delma: With so many podcasts available, let's be clear about why folks give Dive-In-Justice a listen?

Shadiin:   We need this show because we’re not there yet. Because we need to dive at injustice from all angles until the work is done. We humans are hard-wired to live in communities, and many of us find ourselves in communities that are not of our own choosing or design. 

Delma: Folks on the left can be hard on each other.

We all have our collective and individual traumas, histories as individuals, communities, ethnicities.

We often bring that trauma to bear in spaces of community.

It can tear us up from the inside out.

Shadiin: So then Who we are? And who we are to one another? ANd who are we to launch this pod?


We are long time facilitators, long time researchers, activists

Scholars, smokers, swearers, drinkers, parents

From communities for whom mainstream is ashamed to claim

Shadiin: In each podcast, you can expect hard truths and irreverence

We’ll be accountable to each other and our guests.

We’ll laugh, cry, cuss, fuss, explore, and dream.

Delma: We’ll talk about how the past informs the present, and time is circular. 

We’ll use current events to highlight historical trajectories. We’ll remind ourselves and each other that while life will surprise us, we’ve probably been here before and it’s how we respond to the moment that will define us for generations to come. 


We’re inviting you to dive-in with us as we make sense of justice with one foot in reality and another foot in imagination.

You can support us at: 


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  • Twitter: https://twitter.com/DiveInJustice
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  • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTHEIQY9AeKhNCbEYs2g7aA
  • Captivate: https://dive-in-justice.captivate.fm/

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About the Podcast

Building ideal communities with our less than ideal selves
From systemic injustice to internalized oppression, apathy, and trauma, Shadiin Garcia, Delma Jackson, and guests will pull back the layers of struggle within social progress, and dream together, even as we remind one another that our personal tragedies, triumphs, and healing will inform our ability to create a better world.

If you love the idea of building intentional community, If you love history and pop-culture, If you want to dream into a society where intersectionality is baked into the culture, The Dive-In-Justice POD is for YOU.
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About your hosts

Delma Jackson

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Delma Jackson III is a Senior Fellow at the Center for Whole Communities with a focus on story telling, campus engagement, and facilitation. He is also a writer and lecturer on multiple social justice topics.

He studied African-American Studies and Psychology at Eastern Michigan University and later obtained his Masters degree in Liberal Arts with a concentration in American & African-American Studies through the University of Michigan’s Rackham School of Graduate Studies.

He has conducted research on Afro-European identity in the Netherlands in both 1999 and again in 2014—studying slavery in the Netherlands, 21st century migration and immigration across Western Europe, and the impact of racialized pop-culture on Afro- Dutch identity.

He has lectured and/or facilitated workshops at New York University's, Tisch School for Performing Arts, Toledo University's Graduate School for Criminal Justice, the University of Michigan-Flint's School of Health and Professional Studies, the National Conference on Race and Ethnicity in Higher Education (NCORE), the United States Conference on AIDS, and The Office of Sustainability at Dartmouth College. For several years, he facili- tated a convening for Yale University’s Graduate School of Forestry and Environmental Studies, and The National Convening of City Leads for the Nature Conservancy.


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Shadiin Garcia is Chicana and Laguna Pueblo from New Mexico and has lived in Oregon for 17 years. She has worked for over 20 years as a teacher, as a public school administrator, researcher, a policy analyst, Indigenous education leader, and as a consultant. She has a Bachelor's Degree from Yale University in English with a specialization in education; a Master's Degree in Educational Leadership and a PhD in Critical and Sociocultural Studies in Education from the University of Oregon.  

Shadiin's work centers on organizational change; culturally relevant and sustaining curriculum; diversity, equity, and belonging; educational and systemic equity; philanthropic reform; culturally appropriate research; and community driven systemic change. She served as the Deputy Director of Policy and Research at Oregon’s Chief Education Office where she helped develop a research agenda driven by culturally appropriate practices and Indigenous methodologies for improving key educational outcomes. Dr. Garcia is board chair of the Women’s Foundation of Oregon. Through her work both professionally and personally, she has cultivated a network of amazing people who navigate across multiple systems and spaces - public, private, sovereign nations/tribes, non-profit, government, P-20, higher education and more.  She often collaborates within these networks of experts, thinkers, and advocates which bring multiple minds and approaches to bear on complex topics.